wow that's an interesting 1st person telling of events... funny how the WTS depicted those who lost faith as the "evil slave" for not sticking with idiots who made idiotic predictions...
bethel
this excerpt gives the information that brothers committed suicide over the disappointment of 1914. i have never heard this before.
http://towerwatch.com/articles/caputo_appeal_committee_meeting.htm
i met a woman in florida, she was ninety-three years old...a sister.
wow that's an interesting 1st person telling of events... funny how the WTS depicted those who lost faith as the "evil slave" for not sticking with idiots who made idiotic predictions...
bethel
so owyergoin' this fine weekend?
down here, underneath the world, we've had a strange week weatherwise; from heatwave to 'sheets back on the bed' weather.
it should settle into summer very soon.
it's like spelling boobless upside-down on your calculator... you can work your way backwards, you can make up a bunch of random numbers that eventually give it to you, or you can just spell it: 55378008.
bethel
i've put on a tie for the first time since forever!!!.
it took me 4 attempts.
i went for the full double windsor.. steve
no man, you should've gone for the large half-windsor knot... it's so european!
hello everyone, i know that many here like me have read ray's book crisis of consience, i was very impressed with it, it helped open my eyes to the hypocrisy and double standards of the wts, and ray gave me the impresion of being a very loving and kind man, not the demonized apostate we were all lead to believe.
but, i noticed something that wasn't quite correct when i was reading the part that spoke of then brother rene vazquez, he makes it seem like all rene did was have private conversations with ray and nothing else, this is not true, i for a fact know that this was not all that happened.
in a ms meeting on tuesday back in 1980, rene was conducting a part and he went up to the stage with only his bible, he started saying that all we needed was the bible, that we would no longer be using other publications by the wts .
THAT'S IT! I'M GOING BACK TO THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bethel
p.s. kidding! but it's nice to know the story behind the story
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still not a conscience matter... although for the countries that demand that everyone register and actually walk in the booth to cast a vote, a witness may, if his conscience allows, register and go into the booth and add a new box labelled "jesus christ", then checkmark that box and vote for him... hahaha cool eh?!!!.
bethel
If (1) you are still a JW and (2) identified yourself when calling Bethel what you are writing here can get back at you in no time.
i took the caution of restricting my number... plus i was transferred at least three times, and i said i was not one of jehovah's witnesses...
bethel
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still not a conscience matter... although for the countries that demand that everyone register and actually walk in the booth to cast a vote, a witness may, if his conscience allows, register and go into the booth and add a new box labelled "jesus christ", then checkmark that box and vote for him... hahaha cool eh?!!!.
bethel
THAT part is not a quote... but the jist of what he was trying to tell me. he noticeably beat around the bush about it, but he quoted john 17 or something about jesus and his followers (although i have a feeling it's not in John but he sounded a little nervous) being no part of the world etc... so christians would not want to go this route etc...Why didn't you ask why did you join the UN then?
funny you should ask that... that was my next question. he said that the Organisation did not go against their neutrality by joining the UN's "library" because as soon as they changed the stipulation for being an NGO to something that the watchtower couldn't conscienably (i don't think that's how you say or spell that word) agree to, they disassociated themselves. i said, "oh so the UN changed their requirements for being an NGO in 2001?" he said, "well i don't know what year it was, but when they changed it, we left."
bethel
if so, i need the very first song number mentioned in it.
i think we all know why.
Song 125I get the ones in Canada ;though - km-E 8/05 Vol. 48, No.8 ---- I don't expect there's a difference in this respect but who knows
i wouldn't be surprised if there was a difference at least sometimes... because of the fact that the kingdom ministry is directed towards the country you live in... but then again, there are many people on www.jwmatch.com from many different parts of the world, so how would they all know what the US's kingdom ministry songs are???
bethel
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still not a conscience matter... although for the countries that demand that everyone register and actually walk in the booth to cast a vote, a witness may, if his conscience allows, register and go into the booth and add a new box labelled "jesus christ", then checkmark that box and vote for him... hahaha cool eh?!!!.
bethel
STILL not a conscience matter...Is that a quote? How exactly did they say it?
THAT part is not a quote... but the jist of what he was trying to tell me. he noticeably beat around the bush about it, but he quoted john 17 or something about jesus and his followers (although i have a feeling it's not in John but he sounded a little nervous) being no part of the world etc... so christians would not want to go this route etc...
i wonder if he was counting his time???
bethel
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still not a conscience matter... although for the countries that demand that everyone register and actually walk in the booth to cast a vote, a witness may, if his conscience allows, register and go into the booth and add a new box labelled "jesus christ", then checkmark that box and vote for him... hahaha cool eh?!!!.
bethel
Your kidding about the Jesus box right
absolutely not. those were his ALMOST exact words... very closely quoted indeed :)
bethel
"a document is a text submitted to a principal organ or a subsidiary organ of the united nations for consideration by it, usually in connection with item(s) on its agenda.".
source: st/ai/189/add.3/rev.2, para.
http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/resguide/symbol.htm#define
so what you're saying is that they have always had access to this information, without having to be an NGO?